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and the border between israel and gaza and some were farmers wanted to get access to their land. and others the cease-fire agreements. after shouting verbal warnings to the crowds, israeli troops opened fire killing one pal al and wounding more than a dozen. and israel and hamas accused each other of violating the the cease-fire agreement so far both sides showed restraint. today the first time in two weeks, the tomorrow leader in gaza appeared in public and even he avoided the normal inflammatory language that acompanies most incidents. >> and i think for some people to try to go inside means something. >> neither side, it appears, wants to return to the violence of the past weeks. and hamas worked on a series of tunnels they used to move rockets in and out of gaza, giving credence to those who say it's just a temporary pause in the violence not the start to a long-term peace agreement. >> egypt, which played a major role in crafting the cease-fire agreement will hold talks with representatives of israel and hamas in the coming days. a top priority to sort out the vague language
and the border between israel and gaza and some were farmers wanted to get access to their land. and others the cease-fire agreements. after shouting verbal warnings to the crowds, israeli troops opened fire killing one pal al and wounding more than a dozen. and israel and hamas accused each other of violating the the cease-fire agreement so far both sides showed restraint. today the first time in two weeks, the tomorrow leader in gaza appeared in public and even he avoided the normal...
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israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try to talk about overseeing a long-term cease-fire. as we should on the brink of those discussions right now, between gaza and israel, what is the broader impact of the idea that not only will there be a cease-fire, but the fact that israel's neighbors will verify their right to exist, which is the longer formatted problem? >> well, yeah, i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. i think the first step is to cease hostilities. i think that the state department has already said that's step one for secretary of state clinton's arriva
israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try...
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one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which point the figure leaf kind of came away. the administration did a great job actually tactically, playing both of those roles in a way that they hadn't done at all during the first term, sending the secretary of state out to be the arbiter while the president could give the defender of israel speeches like that that's a tactical solution that doesn't get anywhere near the long-term structural problem that it isn't the same middle east that it was five years ago. what do you do instead? how do you serve the long-term interests of israel, especially when maybe many americans don't see israel's long-term inte
one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which...
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they refuse to be critical because they helped with cease-fire and fight between hamas and israel. >> as you imagine, the republican push back on this, and the administration response was fast. john mccain on "fox news sunday." >> renounce the statement and move he just made. allow the judiciary to function. if the judiciary is flawed in some way, that is a ill nose be -- illness cured over time. to assume this power is unacceptable to the united states of america. then we can outline what action might be taken. but first, condemn it. this is not acceptable. this is not what they expect. over dollars will be related to the progress toward democracy. >> senator mccain is helpful here by pointing out that the united states has leverage over egypt. i disagree with jonah on the idea id's a new dictatorship in home of the muslim brotherhood. in the negotiation with israe israel, morsi showed he can separate himself out and fact a pragmatic fashion. i don't know if he is represent brotherhood. the next day cashing in the political capital by declaring yourself unimpeachable dictator of the
they refuse to be critical because they helped with cease-fire and fight between hamas and israel. >> as you imagine, the republican push back on this, and the administration response was fast. john mccain on "fox news sunday." >> renounce the statement and move he just made. allow the judiciary to function. if the judiciary is flawed in some way, that is a ill nose be -- illness cured over time. to assume this power is unacceptable to the united states of america. then we...
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. >> what does this do to israel and to the united states? >> well, look. i mean we -- let's not -- you know egypt is the most important arab state, the first state to sign a peace treaty with israel in the 1970s. egypt is a major, major ally of the united states, not vis-a-vis just israel but also in the broader middle east as well. it affects not just egypt but the neighborhood as well. egypt played a critical role this brokering a truce between hamas and israel. hamas looks up to morsi. hamas listens them. even israel, i would argue, recognize the frounld invasion of hamas because egypt is a pivotal player and because the peace treaty was on line. that's why what happens in egypt not only affects egyptians, it affects the neighborhood and egypt relation with the person powers. in particular it affects them in the middle east and rain world. >> right now a 100-constituent assembly is working on drafting a constitution in egypt. liberals and christians walked out. so basically it's being run by islamists now. some have said part of president morsi's calcul
. >> what does this do to israel and to the united states? >> well, look. i mean we -- let's not -- you know egypt is the most important arab state, the first state to sign a peace treaty with israel in the 1970s. egypt is a major, major ally of the united states, not vis-a-vis just israel but also in the broader middle east as well. it affects not just egypt but the neighborhood as well. egypt played a critical role this brokering a truce between hamas and israel. hamas looks up to...
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that's good for israel. that's also good for gaza. >> mark regev, thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure, sir. >> i want to turn to the other side. welcome to you, sir. how much of a concern is it to you that abas had very little to do with this cease-fire being broken? in fact, nothing, we understand. >> no, i hope the americans will not fall into another mistake. palestine and the palestine question is indivisible. gaza is part of the palestinian territory. they are part of the palestinian people. and the question of palestinian leadership is authentic. the people elected the leader of the palestinian people. but the americans try to divert their attention from the central issue of how to go about making peace in the middle east, and try to concentrate just how to control one party or another, this will be a grave mistake, a disservice to peace and to the stability of this region. >> so are you personally concerned that all the dealings here appear to have been done directly with hamas, and not with a wi
that's good for israel. that's also good for gaza. >> mark regev, thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure, sir. >> i want to turn to the other side. welcome to you, sir. how much of a concern is it to you that abas had very little to do with this cease-fire being broken? in fact, nothing, we understand. >> no, i hope the americans will not fall into another mistake. palestine and the palestine question is indivisible. gaza is part of the palestinian territory. they are...
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>> loser who is anybody that said president obama doesn't support israel. or that there is no such thing as a missile defense shield. iron dome proved very, very effective for protecting israel during this war. >> bret: winner and loser bill? >> i continue with the class warfare theme here, i like to come back to once a year or two. the winner of the week, 19 top executives of the hostess brand who made enough bonuses worth up to $2 million as the company goes out of business for managing the going out of business while the workers of course funds haven't been filled up for a year. the losers, the workers of america. in this budget deal that everybody is talking about the one tax that everyone agrees should go up on the democratic and republican side with a couple of outliers is payroll tax. the social security payroll tax. there is a tax increase in january. unless someone steps up and says wait a second, we are getting everyone else a tax break and let social security tax go up 2%. >> bret: winners and losers? >> bill kristol is turning in to a socialist.
>> loser who is anybody that said president obama doesn't support israel. or that there is no such thing as a missile defense shield. iron dome proved very, very effective for protecting israel during this war. >> bret: winner and loser bill? >> i continue with the class warfare theme here, i like to come back to once a year or two. the winner of the week, 19 top executives of the hostess brand who made enough bonuses worth up to $2 million as the company goes out of business...
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they are firing lots of rockets at israel, and israel is blaming those attacks on hamas because hamas is the regional power broker. i don't know if that's really going to progress ourselves forward. these kind of al qaeda splinter groups never stop firing rockets. hamas has no control over them. if there's a constant cycle where these groups fire a rocket to become a spoiler, israel retaliates and there's a clush of forces and nothing gets resolved. it's hard to see where the progress is there. >> evan, let's broaden it out and see where progress could happen or be kept from happening, because this week a hamas commander was killed after an israeli assault, which followed a rocket attack from hamas. broader than that right now we have 30,000 israeli reservists called up just today. so that's like israel saying every man get your gun and come down here and fight. more than that, we have netanyahu is up for election in january. we have morsi with just basically still the new head of egypt. the muslim brotherhood does not like or respect israel at all. how do these other pieces, these le
they are firing lots of rockets at israel, and israel is blaming those attacks on hamas because hamas is the regional power broker. i don't know if that's really going to progress ourselves forward. these kind of al qaeda splinter groups never stop firing rockets. hamas has no control over them. if there's a constant cycle where these groups fire a rocket to become a spoiler, israel retaliates and there's a clush of forces and nothing gets resolved. it's hard to see where the progress is there....
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there hasn't been any changing of the israel and palestinian peace treaty or demonizing of israel and saying the palestinians are all good and israel's position is entirely indefensible and he has not sounded like the iranians, for example. i am hopeful he is trying to find a middle job. but keeping weapons out of the gaza strip is a difficult proposition yet if you try to blockade the place you caught the other problem of great antagonism in the palestinian and arab movements and population. so it is a thankful and impossible task but the instinct is to navigate the middle ground. >>shepard: our government and other western nations is your sense have enough sway although hamas, it is the muslim brotherhood by another name, they are so well connected? >>guest: we have to pick and choose our battles because if we try to call every shot we are not going to have enough sway. he is the response to mubarak who we supported for three decades and that fact we got mubarak out is not enough to compensate. morrissey will have -- morsi wil have a different agenda. we do not want an oppressive su
there hasn't been any changing of the israel and palestinian peace treaty or demonizing of israel and saying the palestinians are all good and israel's position is entirely indefensible and he has not sounded like the iranians, for example. i am hopeful he is trying to find a middle job. but keeping weapons out of the gaza strip is a difficult proposition yet if you try to blockade the place you caught the other problem of great antagonism in the palestinian and arab movements and population....
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any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state clinton. the senate has spiked some key nominations from president obama before, from elizabeth warren to nobel peace prize winner peter diamond. there is one number that suggests obama is likely to win this battle. we will look at the math after the break on "now." so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year. time for
any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state...
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and her egyptian counterpart announced the deal to end hostilities and greater cooperation between israel and gaza in the near future. >> the united states welcomes the agreement today for a cease-fire in gaza, for it to hold, the rocket attacks must end. a broader calm returned. the people of this region deserve the chance to live free from fear and violence and today's agreement is a step in the right direction that we should build on. >> this news comes after more than a week of violence that claimed 140 palestinian and 5 israeli lives. obviously, this day belongs to the israelis and palestinians. but americans should also look at today as proof that we got it right on election day. i want you to take a look at that scene again. that moment lasted just a few minutes. but it represents a week of slow, deliberate diplomacy by the president, secretary clinton and obama's foreign policy team. and a lot of patience. there was no sabre rattling, no caustic words, no cheap shots. for that you needed to turn to the republicans. >> if this god forbid conflict escalates, again, it is a sign of a
and her egyptian counterpart announced the deal to end hostilities and greater cooperation between israel and gaza in the near future. >> the united states welcomes the agreement today for a cease-fire in gaza, for it to hold, the rocket attacks must end. a broader calm returned. the people of this region deserve the chance to live free from fear and violence and today's agreement is a step in the right direction that we should build on. >> this news comes after more than a week of...
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supported israel, where there is unity in israel. relatively speaking. where the arab and the muslim street haven't risen up. what is the big channel? iran. so, i think it's possible. this is the optimistic view but i mostly believe it. it's quite possible that netanyahu is more strongly positioned to deal with iran at the enof this conflict than ten days ago. >> i call that wildly optimistic. i think hamas has not lost anything. in effect it will come out of these negotiations gained something. we have don't know what it is now. it did this with utter impunity. that in and of itself is a victory. >> i just think that the arab street is still up. when you hear that turkish prime minister calling israelis terrorists and you have the sense that charles calls it pornography but of the death of children among palestinians, there is great upset in the arab world. the question is can -- how does it play in syria? do iranians exploit it to their end? at the moment, if the grand troops can be restrained and netanyahu should be credited with responding to preside
supported israel, where there is unity in israel. relatively speaking. where the arab and the muslim street haven't risen up. what is the big channel? iran. so, i think it's possible. this is the optimistic view but i mostly believe it. it's quite possible that netanyahu is more strongly positioned to deal with iran at the enof this conflict than ten days ago. >> i call that wildly optimistic. i think hamas has not lost anything. in effect it will come out of these negotiations gained...
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but where does israel extend the hand of diplomacy, where does israel stand firm? also, as woe are focusing on iran, should isisrael -- should israel be careful not to take its eye off of hamas? >> well, israel extends its hand in diploam ausall the time. we did this time. we are very receptive and very attentive to the wishes and words of secretary clinton. we cooperated with the egyptian president and we gave peace a chance. we also are doing all we can to make the life of our palestinian neighbors better, both in quality and in the standard of living in the west bank. i think that the one thing that the hamas should watch and especially the people in gaza who are held hostage in this world's largest prison by hamas should watch the way their brethren in the west bank live in peace and safety and security and in prosperity. i think most palestinians really want that. at the same time, because hamas is indeed a proxy of iran, we're not taking our eyes off the ball, neither of hamas, nor of iran. and in a way, what you saw over the last few days was also a demonstr
but where does israel extend the hand of diplomacy, where does israel stand firm? also, as woe are focusing on iran, should isisrael -- should israel be careful not to take its eye off of hamas? >> well, israel extends its hand in diploam ausall the time. we did this time. we are very receptive and very attentive to the wishes and words of secretary clinton. we cooperated with the egyptian president and we gave peace a chance. we also are doing all we can to make the life of our...
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as animals, supports hamas in this latest conflict, the hamas charter calls for the destruction of israel, and you were on this program telling me everything's going to be fine. this is democracy. now the radical islamist has grabbed all the power and obama is giving him credibility. now tell me you support what happened in that here square is a good thing. happened in tahrir square is a good thing. >> i'm hopeful about the egyptian people. they're not going to let this radical muhammad morsi take over power. >> sean: he already has. >> sean: he called himself god, but three things against him, sean. the military is against him. the protesters are against him, the egyptian people. >> sean: are they going to rise against him, assassinate him, get rid of him? >> absolutely. protesters are wounded in a demonstration against this morsi guy, and i think it will continue. people will win in the end. i am very hopeful about that. they fought for this freedom. they're not going to let -- they're just not going to let morsi walk with it. morsi is a very dangerous man right now, sean. you are right
as animals, supports hamas in this latest conflict, the hamas charter calls for the destruction of israel, and you were on this program telling me everything's going to be fine. this is democracy. now the radical islamist has grabbed all the power and obama is giving him credibility. now tell me you support what happened in that here square is a good thing. happened in tahrir square is a good thing. >> i'm hopeful about the egyptian people. they're not going to let this radical muhammad...
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israel considers that area off limits. a palestinian man was later shot and killed. his relatives say he was trying to plant a hamas flag when he was shot. today, of course, is black friday, the frenzied start of the holiday shopping season. bargain hunters were out in force across the country looking for deals. others were out for the fun of it. 147 million people are expected to shop this weekend and they're projected to spend $12.2 billion today alone. seth doane is in jersey city tonight. seth? >> reporter: good evening, anthony, retailers can make as much as 10% of their holiday profit this is weekend. that's why they've made shopping easier and earlier than ever. black friday is usually a contact sport but this year an estimated 41 million people started shopping on thursday, making for a more civilized form of chaos target opened thanksgiving evening but carolyn shin went this morning to kick off the second shift. >> we avoid the crazy lines. we're not the midnight people, we're the 6:30 a.m. people. so we're in between the craziness and the fun. >> reporter:
israel considers that area off limits. a palestinian man was later shot and killed. his relatives say he was trying to plant a hamas flag when he was shot. today, of course, is black friday, the frenzied start of the holiday shopping season. bargain hunters were out in force across the country looking for deals. others were out for the fun of it. 147 million people are expected to shop this weekend and they're projected to spend $12.2 billion today alone. seth doane is in jersey city tonight....
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officials over fears that such a move could harm peace negotiations with israel. palestinian leaders view the vote as a step towards global recognition. >>> and it turns out, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former republican candidate is meeting president obama for lunch in the private dining room. mr. obama had promised in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. while in washington, romney will sit down with his former running mate, paul ryan. now, that lunch is not going to be open to the media. but, oh, to be a fly or anything on that wall. >> awkward. have fun, fellas. >>> when we come back this morning, get your motor running. the new cars getting the buzz at the l.a. auto show. >>> and you're going to need big bucks at starbucks. the $7 cup of coffee is here. >>> and we can't get enough of powerball. what we're learning about the winning tickets. and a little advice for next time. >>> and welcome back, everyone. three former bp workers are free this morning after being arraigned on manslaughter charger, stemming from t
officials over fears that such a move could harm peace negotiations with israel. palestinian leaders view the vote as a step towards global recognition. >>> and it turns out, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former republican candidate is meeting president obama for lunch in the private dining room. mr. obama had promised in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. while in washington, romney will sit down with his former running mate, paul ryan....
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israel and hamas agreeing to a cease-fire but israel says it's going to maintain its border restriction even though they'll talk about it but not lift the naval block aid and hamas says they'll arm gaza with rockets that could be fired into israel. how stable is this situation? >> i think there's a peace deal that's foreseeable. it's not difficult to to foresee. the deal is israel stop with the assassinations and hamas stop firing the rockets. the second part is israel would do something in terms of the border crossing, get activity back to normal which is something the palestinians dearly want as well as to have a sense that hamas would stop smuggling of weapons coming from syria. that's why the naval blockade is in place. they have the possibility of the united states coming in. you asked about u.s. pressure but also the u.s. playing a greater role. if the obama administration says let's let them settle it themself but they said we'll play a more aggressive role. that's the challenge for the obama administration in the second term where as in the first term they wanted a light footpri
israel and hamas agreeing to a cease-fire but israel says it's going to maintain its border restriction even though they'll talk about it but not lift the naval block aid and hamas says they'll arm gaza with rockets that could be fired into israel. how stable is this situation? >> i think there's a peace deal that's foreseeable. it's not difficult to to foresee. the deal is israel stop with the assassinations and hamas stop firing the rockets. the second part is israel would do something...
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launch a ground war and they have proven they can stand up to israel and they are claiming that israel and the world negotiated because of their rockets attacks not despite them and they achieved the promise of the blockade of gaza. and contrast that with the leadership of their rival party, led by palestinian president who preach add nonviolent approach to negotiations with israel, in the eyes of many palestinians, that has achieved little. that could be perception rather than reality but perception sometimes is reality there and powerful israeli voices agree. the former chief of the israeli defense forces, now a political rival of binyamin netanyahu, says the goals of hiation were not reached and the next round is only a matter of time. we should not have stopped at this stage. hamas got stronger and we did not gain deterrent. prime minister binyamin netanyahu would say his goal immediately was to stop rocket attacks and he did that and wait and see. >>gregg: are there historical parallels here? >>jonathan: if you accept the premise, as many middle east experts do, that what has has
launch a ground war and they have proven they can stand up to israel and they are claiming that israel and the world negotiated because of their rockets attacks not despite them and they achieved the promise of the blockade of gaza. and contrast that with the leadership of their rival party, led by palestinian president who preach add nonviolent approach to negotiations with israel, in the eyes of many palestinians, that has achieved little. that could be perception rather than reality but...
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israel is not under the bus. the fact is that president obama, and we shall not forget it, helped us to find us those missiles. and security -- we asked them. they responded positively. and is the president of the united states. we enjoy the support of the two parties. and it is -- and i don't want to say anything against candidate romney any time. but we are not taking parts in the american campaign. and we are lucky to have the support of the two parties. and until -- it's hard to become the president of the united states. and i met all the presidents for the last 50 years, republicans and democrats. i must say, most of them are exceedingly friendly. exceedingly. >> so what about you? you're getting close to 90 years old. that's hard to believe. you look so great. how do you feel? >> i feel that i am too young to do the job. what can i tell you? >> because you still have some energy left. >> i think that everybody can be like me. and i think i'm lucky to show my people. i'm here not to woo the people. someone h
israel is not under the bus. the fact is that president obama, and we shall not forget it, helped us to find us those missiles. and security -- we asked them. they responded positively. and is the president of the united states. we enjoy the support of the two parties. and it is -- and i don't want to say anything against candidate romney any time. but we are not taking parts in the american campaign. and we are lucky to have the support of the two parties. and until -- it's hard to become the...
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as ayman said this is the 300 yard no go area israel declared several years ago when israel was worried militants were putting land mines in that area. that's why it's a no go area in that place. so the israelis say they fired warning shots to scare the palestinians away. they fired three times in the air. when that didn't work they -- there was more shooting. the israelis have not confirmed they killed anybody. and they're saying this is no the a cease-fire violation. it's one of the events that have been occurring up and down the border for a long time and they don't see it as part of the cease-fire situation. rather, an attempt to control an unruly palestinian crowd. that's what the israelis are saying. craig? >> nbc's martin fletcher from tel aviv for us this afternoon, thank you much, sir. appreciate that. >>> back here the obama administration continues to try to bring peace to the region. hostilities broke out, president obama dispatched his top diplomat hillary clinton, to calm tensions on wednesday in cairo. she, of course announced that cease-fire standing alongside her egypti
as ayman said this is the 300 yard no go area israel declared several years ago when israel was worried militants were putting land mines in that area. that's why it's a no go area in that place. so the israelis say they fired warning shots to scare the palestinians away. they fired three times in the air. when that didn't work they -- there was more shooting. the israelis have not confirmed they killed anybody. and they're saying this is no the a cease-fire violation. it's one of the events...
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will hamas agree not to throw rockets into israel, which was the main demand that israel had? if you remember, unlike -- when they wanted to get rid of the hamas leadership in gaza, they never said that this time. this was not about regime change or getting rid of hamas. it was about stopping those rockets. if that happens, that will be good for israel. and for hamas, if they manage to get their leaders to be able to survive and not be able to be assassinate bid israel that, would be good, and also if they get the blockade lifted that, will be good too. that's what they wanted. hamas, of course, has emerge as diplomatically triumphant only because it's failed to be isolated as israel, other countries have wanted in the past. >> and as we have always said, by all parties, want to walk away from this claiming victory, and we'll see if that actually occurs. christian, we'll be back with you shortly. thank so much. >> still 52 minutes before the cease-fire is expected to take hold, and we'll see. i mean, we will see how this develops throughout the afternoon, whether or not this i
will hamas agree not to throw rockets into israel, which was the main demand that israel had? if you remember, unlike -- when they wanted to get rid of the hamas leadership in gaza, they never said that this time. this was not about regime change or getting rid of hamas. it was about stopping those rockets. if that happens, that will be good for israel. and for hamas, if they manage to get their leaders to be able to survive and not be able to be assassinate bid israel that, would be good, and...
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this discovery sparks susthat arafat may have been murdered by israel it is it a charge that israel is denying. he died a month after the sudden illness. >> turmoil in the mideast will be front and center. senator john mccane will talk with chris wallace tomorrow about the seize fire. and -- cease fire. check out your local listing for the time and channel. >> back here they are called door busters for a reason. they are taking advantage of black friday deals and over whelming the enerance of a tulsa, oklahoma victoria secret store. there are mobs and anxious shoppers on the hunt for deals. the crowds in georgia reportedly fought for a deal on a cell phone. all of this is part of a kick off to the shopping season. and so with black friday known as the big prize for major retailers. today the spot light falls on the mom and pop stores supporting local stores that are struggling in a tough economy. local retailers are looking for a boost they need. and ther joining us from new york with more on this effort. >> anna. >> hey, there. today is small business saturday and carries more signifi
this discovery sparks susthat arafat may have been murdered by israel it is it a charge that israel is denying. he died a month after the sudden illness. >> turmoil in the mideast will be front and center. senator john mccane will talk with chris wallace tomorrow about the seize fire. and -- cease fire. check out your local listing for the time and channel. >> back here they are called door busters for a reason. they are taking advantage of black friday deals and over whelming the...
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state department, they don't recognize israel, state of israel. but it's a very powerful, military component and the social component. >> it's important to recognize there are multiple facets of hamas. born in the 1980s, came out of the muslim brotherhood where you see other alliances developing with other countries and you mentioned because they're born of the muslim brotherhood as well. born as a resistance movement but quickly realized that provide for the people would win the hearts and minds. and so yes you have the political wing, military wing, and the social wing, runs schools, hospitals, and they get the grassroots support, mainly from that side of things. >> what does it mean? you've got the cease-fire that happens. if there is in fact a time of calm here, what is the outcome of all of this? i mean, does hamas stay where it is or do they grow, do they become more powerful? who are losers and who are the winners? >> the pessimist in me, i said last time, i predicted they would come to a truce before a ground engagement happened and everyo
state department, they don't recognize israel, state of israel. but it's a very powerful, military component and the social component. >> it's important to recognize there are multiple facets of hamas. born in the 1980s, came out of the muslim brotherhood where you see other alliances developing with other countries and you mentioned because they're born of the muslim brotherhood as well. born as a resistance movement but quickly realized that provide for the people would win the hearts...
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and israel in september i remember seeing headline where israel complimented hamas on the help it was offering so i really don't think those rockets which are long-standing issue can possibly explain why this crisis broke out at this time. i think it is about israeli electoral politics. it was something killed by those rockets. >> jennifer: juan cole, thank you very much. >> until the outbreak of this war. >> jennifer: until the outbreak of this current conflict. juan, thank you for joining us. go blue. juan cole from the university of michigan. coming up, walmart calls black friday its super bowl. but is the game rigged? a walmart employee tells us why she plans to spend the day on the picket line. plus, it's rule number 28 for politicians. never trust your future to a guy named grover. why mr. norquist and his infamous pledge may be up against the ropes. that and much more right after the break. at cepacol we've heard people are going to extremes to relieve their sore throats. oh, okay, you don't need to do that. but i don't want any more of the usual lozenges and i want new cooling
and israel in september i remember seeing headline where israel complimented hamas on the help it was offering so i really don't think those rockets which are long-standing issue can possibly explain why this crisis broke out at this time. i think it is about israeli electoral politics. it was something killed by those rockets. >> jennifer: juan cole, thank you very much. >> until the outbreak of this war. >> jennifer: until the outbreak of this current conflict. juan, thank...
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how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in the fascinating relationship between president obama and morsi. two pragmatists trying to find a way to mediate this immediate conflict. you see it against the backdrop of an islamist backdrop of turkey and the riots in jordan that will cause increasing problems. you have that changing environment which you know more about. the arabs need something different. the governments need to be more responsive to their people. it's an opening for a different relationship. no american president is going to criticize, i would argue, israel's launching of this war. it is an opening for our relationship with
how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in...
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israel threatening to take the next step if if hamas doesn't stop the rocket fire into israel. the next step ground troops moving in. we want to bring in ambassador dennis ross, served as adviser to four presidents and is a mideast diplomacy analyst. it's great to have you with me today. big news coming within the last hour, al jazeera reporting that the ceasefire is going to be announced this evening in cairo. now egypt will reportedly be agreeing to oversee this plan which is said to include an easing of the crossroads into gaza. so peace appears to be eminent but what do you make of the transparency of what the outline of it deal is? >> well, i think we still need to see it implemented. having spent a lot of time in the middle east, done a lot of negotiations, one thing i know about this part of the world, nothing is concluded until you actually see it carried out. it's one thing to talk about it. it's something else to do it. so let's actually see the ceasefire take hold. what i'm hearing is that by midnight their time, which would be around 5:00 our time, that's when it mi
israel threatening to take the next step if if hamas doesn't stop the rocket fire into israel. the next step ground troops moving in. we want to bring in ambassador dennis ross, served as adviser to four presidents and is a mideast diplomacy analyst. it's great to have you with me today. big news coming within the last hour, al jazeera reporting that the ceasefire is going to be announced this evening in cairo. now egypt will reportedly be agreeing to oversee this plan which is said to include...
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israel denies those allegations. >>> back this country, the white house says treasury secretary timothy geithner will leave the negotiations with republicans on the so called fiscal cliff, those tax increases and spending cuts that would kick in next year. lawmakers returned to washington yesterday amid some talk of compromise, but the issue of how to raise revenue remains a critical and hard to overcome sticking point. susan mcginnis is live in washington with more. >> reporter: those changes kick in if no alternative deal is made. as of now, both sides are still talking about their willingness to compromise, but when it comes to that main issue, raising tax rates, both sides are digging in. democratic senator dick durbin will give what's being called a major speech laying out a case for a bipartisan fiscal deal. he's a member of the senate's gang of eight, four democrats and four republicans who have collaborated on ways to reduce the nation's debt for two and a half years. democratic senator mark warner is part of the gang and says democrats are willing to put entitlements like medic
israel denies those allegations. >>> back this country, the white house says treasury secretary timothy geithner will leave the negotiations with republicans on the so called fiscal cliff, those tax increases and spending cuts that would kick in next year. lawmakers returned to washington yesterday amid some talk of compromise, but the issue of how to raise revenue remains a critical and hard to overcome sticking point. susan mcginnis is live in washington with more. >> reporter:...
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israel says three rockets were launched from gaza into israel on thursday. and a shooting incident at the border today has both sides on edge. joining me now is sara sidner in jerusalem. sara, hamas is saying right now that some israeli troops opened fire on palestinian citizens. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, they have very differing story from what the israeli military's saying. here's what the hamas health ministry has said. they said that one person was killed and that 24 people were injured. they say that they were farmers, they were on the gaza side of the border and that the israeli military opened fire on them. however, in talking to the israeli military, they say that there were several groups of men who were protesting, come up to the fence, some trying to enter israel and that the soldiers fired in the air warning shots. when the warnings were not heeded, they began firing toward their legs. the israeli military has not confirmed yet that there's been a death or any injuries. they are investigating. but what makes it significant is that
israel says three rockets were launched from gaza into israel on thursday. and a shooting incident at the border today has both sides on edge. joining me now is sara sidner in jerusalem. sara, hamas is saying right now that some israeli troops opened fire on palestinian citizens. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, they have very differing story from what the israeli military's saying. here's what the hamas health ministry has said. they said that one person was killed and that 24...
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the other big development this week, israel and hamas agreeing to a cease-fire. but, israel says it is going to maintain its border restrictions though they said they'll talk about it. but they certainly will not lift the blockade. the nato blockade and hamas, as was pointed out, number 2, said we are going to keep rockets from gaza that can be fired into israel. how stable is the situation. >> the peace deal is foreseeable. it is not difficult to see already, israel would stop with the assassinations and half mass would stop firing rockets and the second thing is israel would do something with the border crossing, opening the borders, to get commerce activity back to normal which the palestinians dearly want, as well as to have a sense that israel would -- hamas would stop the smuggling of the weapons, coming from syria. and that is why the naval blockade is in place, again, israel fears that the weapons are coming through there and, you have the possibility of the united states coming in and you ask about u.s. pressure and there is also u.s. playing a greater r
the other big development this week, israel and hamas agreeing to a cease-fire. but, israel says it is going to maintain its border restrictions though they said they'll talk about it. but they certainly will not lift the blockade. the nato blockade and hamas, as was pointed out, number 2, said we are going to keep rockets from gaza that can be fired into israel. how stable is the situation. >> the peace deal is foreseeable. it is not difficult to see already, israel would stop with the...
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coslet now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between harassed as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi very very coming closer together and expressing more vocal anti israel sentiment so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the extermination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about a much longer deeper ramifications. the current palestinian leadership submitted a draft resolution to the u.n. general assembly in order to receive nonmember observer status and that's a bit is approved palestinians have more the chance of bringing israel to justice police journalist james called it. if they are successful in this bid then they will actually be able to bring the israeli government before the international criminal court to answer that for charges of war crimes etc and it is conceivable at least that they would be able to bring a case if it was proven that arafat was killed by israeli agents that they would be able to bring a case before the intern
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ceasefire rules two days after a truce was reached along the israel/gaza border. israeli officials say they will investigate reports that a palestinian man was killed. israel has arrested several palestinians suspected of blowing up a bus in tel aviv. we'll bring you the latest on that when we have that. gregg: those are just a few of the many stories we are following this morning. a busy day in "america's newsroom." >>> plus, a boat trip turning deadly off the coast of florida. how 23 people ended up in a fight for their lives. patti ann: and tragedy on the highway. a chain reaction crash causing a 140-car pile-up. we'll tell you how this happened. gregg: plus, ambassador susan rice under fire for calling benghazi a respond spontaneous , and now she is speaking out against her republican critics including senator john mccain. why she says their claims are unfounded. >> when discussing the attacks against our facilities in benghazi, i relied solely and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. i made clear that the information was p
ceasefire rules two days after a truce was reached along the israel/gaza border. israeli officials say they will investigate reports that a palestinian man was killed. israel has arrested several palestinians suspected of blowing up a bus in tel aviv. we'll bring you the latest on that when we have that. gregg: those are just a few of the many stories we are following this morning. a busy day in "america's newsroom." >>> plus, a boat trip turning deadly off the coast of...
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meanwhile, israel is not taking any chances. tomorrow schools will remained closed if they're within 30 miles of the border. >> shannon: thank you. cease-fire appears to be a foreign policy achievement for the obama administration. many problems remain in the volatile of the tough neighborhoods. here is ed henry. >> president obama has a lot riding on the outcome in the middle east. violence flaring up weeks before the start of the second term. he was on the phone again today with two leaders he has a complicated relationship with. egyptian president mohammed morsi and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the president getting netanyahu to agree to the tentative cease-fire with the carrot of additional u.s. funding for iron dome and other missile defense progra programs. >> i have agreed we will fight weapons of terror. >> u.s. and israel knows they send the rockets to hamas through egypt, which is why the president is using more of a stick in the conversation with morsi. today, hillary clinton praising and pushing morsi,
meanwhile, israel is not taking any chances. tomorrow schools will remained closed if they're within 30 miles of the border. >> shannon: thank you. cease-fire appears to be a foreign policy achievement for the obama administration. many problems remain in the volatile of the tough neighborhoods. here is ed henry. >> president obama has a lot riding on the outcome in the middle east. violence flaring up weeks before the start of the second term. he was on the phone again today with...
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. >> there are signs that things are beginning to get back to normal as israel begins to ease border restrictions into gaza after a cease-fire agreement with hamas the other day and that ended eight days of cross border fighting which claimed the lives of 166 palestinians and six israeli civilians. as part of a truce brokered by egypt israel agreed to ease more restrictions of gaza border blockade after they first took over in 2007. >> no doubt the white house is watching the developments in egypt very closely as the timing of this sweeping power grab raises new questions. president morsi's move coming just a day after egypt helped broker a cease-fire between israel and hamas. molly henneberg is live in washington and molly, we heard that the state department put out a statement on this, but omits one thing which is what? >> his name, president morsi's name. instead the state department says the decisions and declarations in egypt quote, raised concerns for egyptians and the community. and assuring that power would not be overly concentrated in the hand of any one person or instituti
. >> there are signs that things are beginning to get back to normal as israel begins to ease border restrictions into gaza after a cease-fire agreement with hamas the other day and that ended eight days of cross border fighting which claimed the lives of 166 palestinians and six israeli civilians. as part of a truce brokered by egypt israel agreed to ease more restrictions of gaza border blockade after they first took over in 2007. >> no doubt the white house is watching the...
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i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened and in the end, you've got to include gaza. you've got to have both parts of the palestinians. that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do is bring hamas and fatah closer together. so i think as i said, we're not going to address them directly but through egypt, i think they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what they say publicly is often different than what they may say to you privately off camera. we will talk about that with ben wedeman next. also more with anne-marie. fuad, appreciate you being on. jill as well. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'
i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened and in the end, you've got to include gaza. you've got to have both parts of the palestinians. that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do is bring hamas and fatah closer together. so i think as i said, we're not going to address them directly but through egypt, i think they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what they say publicly is often different than what they...
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israel has to wait until ta changes before state hood can be confirmed. >> when i was in israel just few months ago and went into the palestinian territories in the west bank and i was with a bunch of children, little boys, and i asked them what they wanted to be, they said i want to fight israel, then dentist, what else their dreams might have been. does morton have a point? >> well, there's a conflict here. there are two peoples that have been at war for over 100 years and we're going to make peace with our enemies, not with our friends and the only splugs o this fight, a fight between two people over one piece of land is to figure out how to share the land or else we're going keep on killing each other. so the two-state solution is the only way for israel to have long-term and short-term security and also to preserve its jewish character. >> morton, don't you have to do a two-state solution and do it soon? the rights of these people who live in the palestinian territories. they just don't have them. >> yes, but we don't want another hamas type entity in the west bank that can hit
israel has to wait until ta changes before state hood can be confirmed. >> when i was in israel just few months ago and went into the palestinian territories in the west bank and i was with a bunch of children, little boys, and i asked them what they wanted to be, they said i want to fight israel, then dentist, what else their dreams might have been. does morton have a point? >> well, there's a conflict here. there are two peoples that have been at war for over 100 years and we're...
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coslet now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between hamas as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi they are they coming closer together and expressing more vocal and he is also to mend so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the examination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about a much longer deeper ramifications. and coming up later this hour the bailout battle maybe i'll go back downstream a. little league believes it should be should be should be. compared to their normal citizens griese gets the much needed cash for its ailing economy but acts that say it's not on the rise past the decision makers are out of truce with reality. also the wrong way will posterity seems to be driving not only protests onto the streets but also a lot of less than honest people into the supermarket. slater but now france has allocated one point five million dollars in aid to the new syrian rebel coalition that's despite criticism before and raised block may
coslet now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between hamas as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi they are they coming closer together and expressing more vocal and he is also to mend so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the examination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about a much longer deeper ramifications. and coming up later this hour the...
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israel says it will destroy any weapons headed to gaza. the paper says the cargo ship might contain long range ballistic missiles. workers in gaza are rebuilding smuggling tunnels destroyed by air strikes. the iran president called the prime minister to graduate >> congratulate him on the victory. >>> a islamic religious leader says it's the duty of gazaians to support the cease-fire agreement says it's the duty of all residents and not to do so is, in his words a sin. >> david lee miller live in jerusalem thank you. >>> the state department is calling for calm after mohammed morsi's power grab as opposition groups gather to ban the sweeping powers, the white house is quiet. congressman john garamandy joins us now. >> good to be with you. >> your colleagues on the senate side, some have been vocal, senator lindsey graham comes to mind about the issue of funding for egypt. that is something we need to highlight for them in hopes of coercing president morsi to scale back his decree? >> i can be sure president morsi is aware of the american i
israel says it will destroy any weapons headed to gaza. the paper says the cargo ship might contain long range ballistic missiles. workers in gaza are rebuilding smuggling tunnels destroyed by air strikes. the iran president called the prime minister to graduate >> congratulate him on the victory. >>> a islamic religious leader says it's the duty of gazaians to support the cease-fire agreement says it's the duty of all residents and not to do so is, in his words a sin. >>...
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israel said they will ease the blockade around gaza, but israel wants guarantees for security because these are two of the really big points that will be worked out in the coming days. still, life in the holy land is beginning to return to some type of normal life here. schools are reopening on both sides of the border. yesterday. israeli children went back to school in southern israel. this coming as stores and markets are reopening and in gaza, palestinian children returned to school for the first time in more than a week. this comes after the rockets and missiles have stopped. there are some signs of legally progress. also we are hearing that palestinian officials in gaza are being able to go out and take boats out and say the fishermen are able to take their boats out. there are positive signs, also most of the israeli troops that begin to mass along the border they have withdrawn from that area. border is being paroled by hamas and israeli troops but a much smaller contingent. all signs of progress in terms of keeping this cease-fire going forward. there are some big issues to be
israel said they will ease the blockade around gaza, but israel wants guarantees for security because these are two of the really big points that will be worked out in the coming days. still, life in the holy land is beginning to return to some type of normal life here. schools are reopening on both sides of the border. yesterday. israeli children went back to school in southern israel. this coming as stores and markets are reopening and in gaza, palestinian children returned to school for the...
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abbas has not recognized israel. none of those concerns have been removed. there will be a cease-fire to be sure. but in the future we'll have a repeat of this. gregg: let's talk about egypt. that's where secretary of state hillary clinton is. the muslim brotherhood changes the dynamic dramatically. they are in economic chaos. we provide millions in aid. we are threatening -- some senators are threatening to with hold that. is that our leverage? >> morsi stepped up to the plate to fulfill the role of a peacemaker. for many observing this, that's a welcome geopolitical event but it's also a surprise. but let's not kid ourselves. morsi's motivations are as you suggest. we provide him billions in aid. he needs that money. he wants a relationship with the united states. at the same time he has an audience in egypt that clearly is backing hamas in this event and is anti-israel and he has to cater to both. gregg: general jack keane, great to see you. heather: an amazing athletic performance smashing a 58-year-old ncaa basketball touring record. jack taylor scoring
abbas has not recognized israel. none of those concerns have been removed. there will be a cease-fire to be sure. but in the future we'll have a repeat of this. gregg: let's talk about egypt. that's where secretary of state hillary clinton is. the muslim brotherhood changes the dynamic dramatically. they are in economic chaos. we provide millions in aid. we are threatening -- some senators are threatening to with hold that. is that our leverage? >> morsi stepped up to the plate to fulfill...
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so the family asked israel for permission to cross the border. initially her mother was terrified, terrified at the prospect of people considered an enemy in their country putting their hands on her wounded daughter. it is a strange situation, and it is my first time entering israel. i was afraid. but they treated me and my daughter in a very nice way and i understand that medicine has nothing to do with politics, she says. >> all the tension is blocked outside the hospital. here there is an island of sanity. in this stormy water of the middle east, here we treat people, we don't actually look from where they are and what they do and what they did before coming here and what they're going to do after leaving us. >> reporter: the doctor is treating both children. >> it will never be normal. it will affect her life from now on. and his life from now on. in the choice of profession, in the choice of a future partner for life, everything. >> reporter: she has worked in this tel aviv hospital her entire career. treating everyone from soldiers to suici
so the family asked israel for permission to cross the border. initially her mother was terrified, terrified at the prospect of people considered an enemy in their country putting their hands on her wounded daughter. it is a strange situation, and it is my first time entering israel. i was afraid. but they treated me and my daughter in a very nice way and i understand that medicine has nothing to do with politics, she says. >> all the tension is blocked outside the hospital. here there is...
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is firmly supporting its ally israel. peter baker was traveling with the president. peter, with all the changes in the region, how has the u.s. role changed in this process? >> well, of course, you saw president obama taking a very hands on role in this. something that he's been reluctant to do at times in the past. he had a bad experience trying to involve himself in peace making in the middle east in the beginning of his presidency. he grew a little disenchanted with how intransigent players were. he and netanyahu the prime minister of israel have a troublesome relationship to say the least. and yet he decided in this case he had to dir ctly dive in and making phone call after phone call. he's in and out of these asian summit meetings and grabbing the known to talk to netanyahu, talk to president morsi of egypt. and he recognizes something that almost every president eventually discovers which is that america is still indispensable player when it comes to these sort of conflicts in the middle east. pete: still the indispensable player and hasn't changed with the ar
is firmly supporting its ally israel. peter baker was traveling with the president. peter, with all the changes in the region, how has the u.s. role changed in this process? >> well, of course, you saw president obama taking a very hands on role in this. something that he's been reluctant to do at times in the past. he had a bad experience trying to involve himself in peace making in the middle east in the beginning of his presidency. he grew a little disenchanted with how intransigent...
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hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is an effective way to do that. no israelis have been killed by this shower of hamas rockets which is absolutely unacceptable and deplorable and nobody had been killed until this action. >> you can't wait until it hits a school bus. you have to stop the risk when you have hundreds and hundreds of rockets. you can't wait until it hits a school. >> now israelis have died, and i also, you know, think that at the end of the day this will be an ineffective way of advancing israeli security. i do think that engaging with the palestinian author
hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is...